I appreciate the thought, but consider the MCU's boundaries pre- and post-Multiverse Saga. Just because it's been opened up, doesn't mean that you can consider unconnected franchises "the MCU" - that's like saying that because I can technically spend a week in Spain I should be classed as Spanish. The MCU's main universe is still a distinct timeline with its own distinct characters, and that's what this list is talking about!

Don't worry, I would never forget the Arrowverse! The article is specifically focusing on movie versions of the characters that either failed or were failed in some way, but who will reappear in future. Lex Luthor in particular seems to fare much better on TV than in movies of late, but hopefully that will change in 2025!

Thanks, Chris. I actually think some of the MCU versions are better than the comics, but this list isn't about whether they're better or worse; it's just looking at the differences. Hope that helps!

This is completely true, and that's not at all what I meant by saying the quote had aged poorly. Consider it in real-world : if a screenwriter was writing a person influenced by a symbiote to act as a villain today, they wouldn't have them childishly taunting people. It's more that the approach to demonstrating Peter's personality shift hasn't aged well than the plot point itself.

There's nothing in what he says that insinuates femininity. I agree that he's deliberately antagonizing Bonesaw, but the line uses implied homosexuality as an insult of sorts, and that's not something that would be done today. I wasn't saying that Raimi or Koepp themselves are homophobic, but rather that the sort of humor that ed for acceptable in 2002 is no longer culturally appropriate in 2024.